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Opportunities
Today :- August 2004 Issue |
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Interview
of Mr. Nitin Jumle |
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Nitin Jumle is probably the only trainer in Mumbai to teach people Jeet Kune Do , a rare art of Kung Fu founded by Bruce Lee. Here Jumle shares his pursuit of this rare art and what inspired him to take up Jeet Kune Do (JKD). "The Kung Fu Way" is the name under which Nitin conducts training at various venues in Mumbai.
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Tell us what inspired you to learn Jeet Kune Do?
When I was a small boy in school in my home town Nagpur, there was a group of youngsters or rather local gangsters who used to bully me and my friends on our way to school. At times they would bully us forcing us to consume liquor and even bash us up. Unfortunately, we had to pass through this road which was primarily a slum area in our town. There these boys used to grab us by our collar and demand money. These village bullies used to rag us every time on our way to school. They had created a fear psychosis in us.
I didn't want to be bullied and on the other hand I couldn't complaint to my parents as my dad was in Indian Air Force and he would probably laugh at me for being such a coward unable to defend myself. So, we used to take a longer route to school to avoid them. At the back of my mind, I used to always wonder how we could get away from this ragging as these boys would continue harassing us and extort money.
One day, one of my friend asked me to accompany him to see a movie called Enter the Dragon which had Bruce Lee in it . Seeing Bruce Lee, one man fighting so many that too all alone, I said: “If Bruce Lee can do it , so can I” and from that moment I was on the look out for some one who could teach me to fight like Bruce Lee. At that time I was hardly 14 years of age and I told myself, if I learn this style of fighting I would have to fear nobody in the future. Thus, it was “Enter the Dragon” and “Bruce Lee” that changed my life and my way of thinking and inspired me to find someone who could teach me to fight like Bruce Lee.
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How did you find your Guru or Trainer ?
My biggest dilemma was that to learn such a fine art of fighting I would have to probably travel to a big city like Mumbai or even go abroad and that would be beyond my reach as I was from a very simple family with limited resources. I got to know that a person by the name of Ranjan Deb used to teach Karate in Nagpur. In the meantime, one day on my way to school the same goondas tried to attack me and to my good luck, one of my friends Kamal Michael came to my rescue by using techniques he had learnt at this Karate School in Nagpur. |
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I requested him to help me in learning Karate. He obliged me. One day, I tried to use what I had learnt, but it did not help. Thereafter I decided that I should learn something more powerful which could help me in such adverse situations.
During those days in Nagpur, I happened to read an interesting piece of news. One of the foreign students in VRC College in Nagpur was bullied by a mob and he single handedly defended himself. This incident occurred when some of the students tried to rag him as he was new in college and he assaulted them so badly that they had to be hospitalized. I told myself, this is probably “the one” I should meet to learn his style of self defense. I contacted him and I got to know that he was an exchange student by the name of Haitham Assad who had come all the way from Palestine to do his Engineering studies in Nagpur. He had learnt and specialized in Kung Fu during his guerilla training in the Palestine side of Israel. In that part of the world guerilla training was mandatory and he perfected the art of Kung Fu.
He agreed to teach us but on his terms. His style of training was extremely ruthless. He told us that in order to perfect this art we have to first tone our body to make it immune to injuries. So he used to bash us up till we were bleeding, after that he would ask us to run 8 to 10 kilometres. It was extremely tortuous and several students ran away from his style of training even on the first day itself.
We were treated like kit bags where we had to just stand and take a bashing from him every day. I thought of giving up but I thought that it is better to condition our body through this ruthless person rather than being hammered by a group of bullies. Atleast I would learn to take a beating without having the fear of being hammered. These were probably the toughest days of my life. However my pursuit helped me to cope up with my tough training from this tough “Guru”. Later I realized that this "tough way" of learning indirectly helped us to develop a strong resistance.
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How did you start training others?
This happened by accident. The crude style of training compelled many of my friends to drop out although they were interested in learning this art. They requested me to train them without going through the ruthless style adopted by our trainer. I told them that it would not be possible as this was the best way where body develops a level of tolerance and immunity by accepting the punches and kicks from the trainer. However they coaxed me to train them so that they would be conditioned to face the trainer and that is how I started training them and prepared them to take forceful punches and kicks from Mr Assad.
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One day my trainer got to know that I was privately training and he gave me the bashing of my life. Then he explained to me that though this is an art of Self Defense, if one does not train the people in the right way with the right technique, it could seriously injure someone. Seeing my devotion he encouraged me to learn with utmost discipline so that I could master the art to be an effective trainer.
My guru completed his studies and left Nagpur and by that time most of the students had started accepting me as a trainer of Kung Fu. I and one of my friends Vilas were so good at Kung Fu that we were invited by several schools to judge even Karate contests and demonstrate Kung Fu as well. We also got media coverage and our popularity started gaining momentum.
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How did you come to Mumbai?
Our family was running a sewing machine shop. So I didn't want to neglect that as it was our business since three generations. So my priorities shifted and I used to devote most of my time in the tailoring business. However, due to my passion that I had developed for Kung Fu I continued to bunk from my responsibility of running the ancestral business and leave by four o'clock in the evening to practice Kung Fu. One day my dad sat down and told me not to neglect my main activity as this was our main source of income and without that we would not survive. So either I would have to give up Kung Fu or the tailoring business. Later on thanks to the encouragement from my parents, I could train four hours every day. had several ministers' children who used to come to me and one of them offered me to stay in MLA Hostel in Mumbai at no cost so that I could be in Mumbai and pursue my desire to practise Kung Fu. At the same time, I got the news that I had passed my banking exam and I was inducted by Bank of India. I was engrossed with my job as earning money in a city like Mumbai was extremely essential. For some time I started neglecting my Kung Fu. I could not practice at the MLA hostel. So I started looking for a place.
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How did you continue your Kung Fu practice and start training in Mumbai?
There is a saying nothing is destined but you make your own destiny. I came across a Parsee Gentleman by the name of Mac Spencer who had heard about my Kung Fu. He was a cricketer working in our bank. I told him that Kung Fu involved a lot of rigorous exercises. First he found it hard to believe and so he told me to show him and some of his friends a demo of Kung Fu at Parsee Gymkhana. He asked me to punch at him and as I didn't want to risk injury, I punched the door and even today if you visit the Parsee Gymkhana you will find the door with a fist sized gaping hole created by the impact of the punch. Those present were stunned to silence as the rest of the door was intact excepting the shape of the fist which still stands out very prominently. My demonstration mesmerized him and his friends and they invited me to teach them Kung Fu and I was delighted as through training I would also be able to practice. Thus I got a place to practice as well as start training in Kung Fu once again.
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Spencer also recommended my name in the bank to be a Fitness Trainer and thereafter after my work at the bank I used to train the cricketers and make them go through the rigorous exercises to help them improve their fitness.
Mac Spencer was captain of the cricket team at Parsee Gymkhana and at Dena Bank. In 1985, he started learning Kung Fu and it transformed him totally. After learning and practicing Kung Fu, his stamina increased phenomenally, so much so that he could bowl 25 to 30 overs every day and score big centuries. Later, due to the improvement in his cricketing skills he was also given a promotion at Dena Bank.
While I was regularly practicing at the Parsee Gymkhana, one of the persons learning Karate came to me and told me that there is not much difference between the two styles of Martial Art but seeing my demo he was inspired to learn Kung Fu. Eventually I had 22 people learning under me. However since I had my regular income from the bank, I did not charge any fee from any of the trainees. This resulted in a sense of complacency and the people used to come as per their convenience. So at that moment I realized that till I do not charge for the training, the importance of training would not be valued at all.
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What were the difficulties you encountered and how did you overcome them?
It was quite hectic to do a bank job and impart training. So my day was divided into two parts a job at the Bank and later in the evening practicing Kung Fu. At the same time I got married and I shifted to Thane. With the stress of a fast paced city life, I started smoking to counter stress but it affected my health. I joined Brahma Vidya sessions in 1998 conducted by High Court Judge Dudhat which helped me to overcome my weakness of smoking and helped me to have a renewed vigour. It helped me to develop a positive attitude towards life and improved my concentration through breathing exercises. Thus it helped me to encounter various problems and once again I decided to pursue my passion for Kung Fu.
Later, I shifted to Thane and intentionally took a place close to forest area so that I could practice my Kung Fu in the open. Once again people started approaching me and I started training for free as my benefit was that by training others I would practice as well. Thereafter, as I had developed a good rapport with Mr Dudhat and his family, I taught his daughter Radhika and learning Kung Fu benefited her to such an extent that she suggested why don't I start teaching people and share my expertise.
My dilemma was that I didn't have place nor resources to publicize. However, Radhika recommended some of her corporate friends. I got a further boost from Mr Vinod Sethi, the person behind Mount Everest Mineral Water that owns the brand Himalayan Mineral Water. Kung Fu helped him to be more alert, agile and active and through good words and recommendation of people like Vinod and Radhika, they started recognizing this fine art . I also got introduced to Mrs Hansa & Mr Manoj Tirodkar and with their help soon I started training people at Scholar's High School, Colaba. Mr and Mrs Tirodkar encouraged me to conduct training at the place and time of convenience at their school premises.
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Tell us about the different types of students who learn Kung Fu and at which places do you teach.
Today, there are corporates from Taj, students from all walks of life - from an air hostess, to a 58 year old housewife to working professionals. My youngest students start as early as 5 years of age as any one can learn this art. Even some famous personalities like singer Anuradha Paudhwal's daughter, cine star cum model Anu Agarwal, cinestar late Sushant Ray and people from all walks of life include sports personalities such as Babu Pednekar, Sanjay Bhangar and several other Ranji players as well. In fact one of my students had a knee problem and I recommended her to learn Kung Fu to get rid of the problem and she was amazed that in a short span of time she was free from any pain by learning the various exercises which form the foundation to learning Kung Fu. I used to teach at Exert Gym and also gave a demo at QiGym, Mumbai .
Currently I conduct classes in Vashi, Dadar and Colaba and I have also conducted camps in Mahableshwar. I intend to start classes at Bandra & Chembur shortly.
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How early in life can one start learning Kung Fu?
Youngsters of even 5 years of age can learn as primarily the basic exercises in Kung Fu involve stretching exercises and this really is a major asset in a city like Mumbai where everyone is crammed for space and common activity is to sit in front of the idiot box . So a few exercises besides making them flexible and improving fitness levels also becomes a welcome change from being in crammed spaces of a metropolitan city. They also start becoming health conscious at a very early age. Several students who start learning inspire others from the family to learn and it is not uncommon to see two or three members of the family to come and learn as it helps improving the fitness levels tremendously.
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How long have you been teaching Kung Fu?
From the time first I started in Nagpur it is now almost 24 years since I have been teaching Kung Fu. Though originally I wanted to learn the art of self defence but later on I realized that I was fortunate to have learnt the art of Jeet Kune Do which was introduced first by Bruce Lee. I was indeed fortunate to learn this fine art of Kung Fu which is full of grace, rhythm and I would say it is one of the most effective forms of Martial Arts. When I was learning in Nagpur, Mr Haitham Assad told us that this art of Kung Fu that we were learning is so special and unique that very few people in the world practice it. Later, I realized that he was right and this special style that I learnt was Jeet Kune Do.
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What are the principles on which you teach Kung Fu and what are the benefits?
I tell my students that you are not learning Kung Fu to show your expertise. You are learning this to improve your fitness levels and in cases of dire emergency use it for Self Defence. This art is so special - it makes you alert, active and agile. I will share my own experience: One day I slipped climbing down the stairs, but because I have been practicing Kung Fu, I was alert enough to land myself balancing my entire body on my two hands. If I had not known this art I would have fallen and even broken my spinal cord. On another occasion while I was riding my two wheeler an ambassador car lost control and just before it collided against my vehicle. My alertness helped me to swing my entire body by lifting my legs and jump off before the car collided and smashed my two wheeler. And the third instance was one of my students whilst demonstrating a side kick hit me and I was totally air borne but my body was alert to respond & react spontaneously and balance well in time to land on my two hands and not fall down the steps which would have been fatal. So Kung Fu helps your body to react instantaneously and I cannot think of any other sport or form of martial art which can raise your level of alertness as Kung Fu does. It also helps you to improve your nervous system as in this fine art you get to know how to channelize your flow of energy in one area of your body. Kung Fu improves your blood circulation as well.
Kung Fu also helps you organize and cope up with demands of life. Take my own example, I work in a bank that too in the foreign exchange department which is a very critical job. Yet, I am able to do my work and have such a hectic schedule of teaching Kung Fu in the evening. Kung Fu has helped me to focus better in my job, increase my concentration and as a result improve my efficiency at work.
There have been times when I start my day from Thane as early as 5.30 in the morning. Thereafter I catch my train to VT and then I am off to Navy Nagar, Colaba to start classes at 7.00 am. Thereafter I am off to Bhuleshwar to resume my work at the Bank and later in the evening I train corporates at the Taj Hotel, Colaba and catch my train after my training sessions at 10.30 in the evening from V.T. Station and reach home at 0030 hours in the morning. After dinner, I sleep at around1.00 am to get up at 4.00 am to start my routine once again. I have managed to do this quite regularly and I still am alert at work as Kung Fu has helped me to be active and energetic even if I have a very long day.
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How do you plan spreading this art?
As you rightly said that this is an art and hence it requires a very high level of precision. I would love to spread this fascinating art and would love to train people who could spread it. However, if it is not practiced properly, it would result in injuries as your body has to be properly warmed up. So my endeavour will be to train people and identify some good students who can help me in sharing this knowledge with as many as possible. It is critical that the trainees are taught to be excellent trainers. It should not happen that someone is injured as eventually I feel responsible for someone's injury. My conscience will not permit that.
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What are the advantages of doing Kung Fu?
Half the battle is lost due to fear psychosis. In most cases fear is self created and becomes a part of your psyche. When I was teaching a young boy in Nagpur, I asked him to take a round of the colony to warm up before the exercises and he was reluctant. On asking him he told me that in case I run round the colony, won't someone take objection. Like this there are many instances where you create a fear psychosis on your own, whether going for an interview or appearing for an exam or for that matter anything. The advantage of Kung Fu is that it creates higher energy levels due to the various exercises that you do. It improves your blood circulation and that in turn changes the way you think. You start having positive flow of energy and sub consciously it helps to get rid of the self created fear psychosis within you. It helps you to feel more confident and after the exercise there is that extra glow on your face which makes you feel rejuvenated and extremely energetic.
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What is the major distinction between Kung Fu and other forms of Martial Arts?
Every Martial Art technique is special in its own way. Karate and Judo are from the Japanese school, Taekwondo is from Korea, Wing Chun and Tai Chi forms of Kung Fu are from China. Bruce Lee combined all salient features from Taekwondo, Tai Chi and even American Kick Boxing to introduce his own special style which was known as Jeet Kune Do. The interesting part is until I didn't do indepth reading and study, I wasn't aware that I had learnt Jeet Kune Do. Through research, practice and development, many variations to Jeet Kune Do style have been introduced.
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Another interesting aspect is Jeet Kune Do or even Kung Fu does not have any gradation like Karate, why is it so ?
What I had heard from my Guru or Trainer was that if there is a gradation, it develops a sense of ego as well as complacency. For example if you are a fourth dan Black Belt, you will feel you are superior to the third dan and so on. Likewise, it can develop a sense of ego that you are superior to others. My trainer has emphasized that the day you feel you have become a master, it will take you to your end sooner. Every day, every week and every year you should learn something new and improve on the previous day and try to be better than the best. That is the beauty of having no gradation. Tomorrow one of my students may excel and be better than me as he has put more efforts in his learning process. By having gradation your ego gets inflated in your subconscious mind. You start telling yourself that you are black belt and therefore you are superior to a brown belt and so on and that leads to your downfall and you create a barrier for your self and you stop improving. On the other hand, in Kung Fu I was always taught to say that I know very little Kung Fu and once someone sees you performing the art, it should be left to others to appreciate your expertise and assess rather than you being your own judge. Unfortunately, we are surrounded in a world which has gradation every where in school, college as well as in sports and so on. It is always good to stay humble rather than having an ego and let others judge you and assess your expertise. Always remain humble, that is very important. |
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So is it that if a Fifth Dan fights with a Sixth Dan black belt would he feel inferior?
There are pros and cons. Let's see on the positive side on having gradation as well. For example I have a student who is a Fourth Dan Black Belt and it took him 11 years to reach the Fourth Dan level. Now if a person has put in several years of effort and he gets rewarded, it can even motivate him to move further and higher. It makes you feel that after putting in so many years of effort you have been appreciated and rewarded for your hard work. So if you take it in the positive spirit of being appreciated and rewarded for your hard work then it is okay. It also depends from individual to individual and how one looks at it. For example one of my student who is barely 7 years old took part in a competition in Australia and won a bronze model. I felt so happy for him as he got a medal at such a young age. So it depends how you take it whether as an appreciation or reward or in a way that you get more egoistic. The same applies to learning Kung Fu If you use it as a form of exercise to improve your fitness level, to use it as a technique of Self Defense it is good, but if you abuse it, it could be fatal. So whether it is matter of gradation or any form of martial arts you should always look at it from a positive side. |
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How do you ensure that you do not commercialize this fine art of Jeet Kune Do?
When I was learning Kung Fu, there was a friend of mine who is still in Nagpur. Although he was very good at Kung Fu, he chose to pursue Karate and started a Karate school as it was more popular and there is a wider network of Karate schools in India. He too suggested me to follow the same. However, learning , practising and sharing my knowledge of Kung Fu is my passion. The initial years of my life I have trained several students without any fee. In fact, I became a trainer by accident and today more and more people have started appreciating this fine art. I could have very well commercialized it. However, I discourage many by saying that if you are learning Jeet Kune Do , you will not get any belts, you will not get any certificates. Your certificate is how your personality is transformed by practicing this fine art and you should reach a level of self containment. Even today if I have one student who has the passion and interest to learn I will accept him rather than 10 students who want to learn for a certificate or a reward without putting the effort into learning. I have students who are learning since last 3 to 4 years and till date I have not given them any gradation and they continue to learn. I have also now started giving uniforms to my pupils so that it instills an element of self discipline whilst learning. Thus I have taken care not to be carried away by monetary rewards nor have I commercialized this art. |
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Lastly tell us the reason for recommending this art to our readers.
There is no age barrier to learning Kung Fu. Secondly, you don't need any equipment or large space to learn this fine art. Learn the art not just for self defense but to improve your level of fitness and you will start leading and enjoying a better life with positive energy flowing all the time. After all Kung Fu was not invented recently but by our ancestors who invented this art for you to have a better lifestyle. So make the most of it and spread this knowledge so that many more can benefit. My advise is to make Kung Fu a part of life and it will help remove toxins from your body and ensure a healthier and a wholesome life. Just as you do not forget to have your meal every day, the same way you should continue exercising and you wouldn't need doctors and you wouldn't need to spend on hospital bills in years to come.
In today's world where most of us are working in offices, we sit in the same posture for the whole day. This affects our knees and our back during the latter stages of our life. So if you do regular stretching and warm up exercises you will face no problem in your old age and you will enjoy life to the fullest as long as you live.
For Jeet Kune Do enthusiasts, pick up our next issue in which we talk about the Founder of Jeet Kune Do- the late BRUCE LEE. So book your copy now! |
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What are the various stages and styles in learning Kung Fu?
Before I explain some of the styles I learnt, I should give credit to Suresh bhau who taught me especially the Tiger and Crane Style. When I was learning in Nagpur, Suresh was a student much senior to me and when my Guru left, I coaxed him to teach me the advanced techniques and I am thankful to him today for having taught me these techniques.
Firstly, learning Kung Fu is a very slow process. No one can be a Bruce Lee within 2 months and if you do make an attempt, it is at the cost of causing harm to your body. So first you have to master the stretching exercises so that your body becomes extremely flexible. This helps tone your body and you have to practice the stretching exercises for weeks and at times for months so that you become totally flexible. This in turn helps you to strengthen your body and you are aware of the various parts of your body and their limitations through stretching and bending.
The next stage is learning the close hand technique, punches, defenses and basic kicks. During this stage you learn proper locking techniques so that when you punch or kick someone, if you don't do properly, it could lead to serious injuries or even dislocation. So enough time has to be spent in learning punches, inner defense, outer defense, kicks so that you start realizing how best you can use your body for basic defense techniques and importantly the limitations as well. This enables you to learn techniques of self defense as well as the right technique to attack others without injuring yourself. So you begin to realize which part of your body can be used in what way for self defense. So these in a nutshell are the basic techniques where mostly the emphasis is using closed hand style of Kung Fu.
Once you master the basic techniques of self defense which revolve around the closed hand method, you develop rhythm, strength and self control over your body. You have control on using your fists, your legs and not to overstretch your joints to avoid serious injuries. After mastering closed style of self defense, you can then learn the open hand style viz the crane style or tiger style. Crane is a bird, if you ever observe whenever a crane is attacked, it uses its wings for self defense by using the pointed edges of wings to ward off the enemy. This takes the opponent unaware due to this sudden attack and the opponent is helpless. So the crane is able to defend itself and at the same time attack the opponent at critical areas like the eye, the ear or the temple. |
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Now let us see the tiger style tiger is all about power. Tiger style is easier to demonstrate than to explain. You are basically channellizing all your energy through your fist and the thrust created through that energy generated makes the opponent totally helpless and can break through any defense. To understand the snake style you have to visualize the upper torso of your body to be as flexible as the hood of the snake and so your upper torso is as flexible as a spring and when an opponent attacks you, you effortlessly sway so that the opponent misses you and then you bounce back and if you are attacked from another opponent from the side, you can swerve in a different direction. |
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At the same time you can counter attack from any direction. In a nutshell, the snake style is like a cobra who remains coiled in a loose but compact position and the strike is felt before it is seen. There are many more styles , like the eagle claw style which was in the movie Fearless Hyena. The Eagle style is special in its own way as thru this technique you can attack key areas of your opponent and disable the nervous system. The beauty of this technique is that it is done in a very graceful way.
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Practicing KUNG FU helps in many ways:
1. It makes you health conscious
2. There is no ageing- you always feel young, energetic and active.
3. There is increase in the energy level in your body
4. If you practice any sport like cricket, football, tennis it helps you improve your stamina and as a result you excel in your sport
5. It increases your self confidence to face any challenges at work
6. Your face starts glowing and you will be free from all illness
7. You don't have any back problems or knee ache as you are exercising every part of your body.
8. You never feel exhausted or tired even after a long day at work. |
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