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What are your responsibilities as a
CEO and how has your role evolved over the years? |
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I have been
associated with the Afternoon since its inception which is almost
20 years. As a CEO, I head almost every operation-it could be from
organizing, from conceptualizing what you are going to do with the
paper, the people-the hiring and the firing, the property here in
Mumbai- buying it as it didn't fall into our lap, we had to work
for it. It's been a long journey. We are small time guys and I
still think that we are small time guys in a certain manner. We
are big in the newspaper world, we are big in credibility, we are
big in readership and we are envy of most of the newspapers of
India, but we are still small. I don't think big honestly. |
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USP of Afternoon? |
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It's our honesty
and approach to our work and our credibility factor. We've
changed the concept of what an afternoon paper is like. We've
built a very strong readership based on these kinds of
qualities- People who don't quit us and go, come what may.
People might have thought that the Afternoon would struggle to
survive after Behram had gone. |
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They thought perhaps the
publication would be very shaky. I continued to apply myself, to
my job and continued on the same path and today we lead the
market in a certain manner without tom tomming about it. What we
are, we are thru' our hardwork, thru people's perception about
us and the loyalty of our readers. |
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How has your role changed now compared
to when Behram was around? |
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The only major
difference now is that I look into much of the editorial whereas
when Behram was around I was more involved in discussions. I am
much more hands-on now and I have got an able editor in Mark
Manuel but I do shoulder a lot of responsibilities in the area of
editorial. I also write as well whereas when Behram was there I
used to never write at all. Besides, writing I shoot a lot of
photographs and the magazine UPPER CRUST which was launched 7
years ago has also evolved and I am the Editor for the magazine.
So in terms of editorial, I handle a lot more now then what I used
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Tell us something about Upper
Crust and the Upper Crust Show which is now an annual event. |
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We had Afternoon
and within the newspaper we had a huge brand called Eating Out
with the famous Busybee writing about restaurants and we had a
huge readership for that and that motivated us to launch Upper
Crust which was around 6½ years ago. We launched Upper Crust
which was a huge success and the next step was to have the Upper
Crust show which would synergize with the whole concept of the
magazine. Mumbai and India is poised perfectly right now and has
been for the past couple of years to break through and make new
forays into the world of food and cuisine. I believe it's a 5000
crore industry and it's growing and so we had to be at the right
time and the right place and it just followed the pattern and we
launched the Upper Crust show so that more people could be made
aware of the magazine and in order to promote the magazine, we
did the Upper Crust show in Mumbai and it has grown over the
past 3 years and become big by itself.
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When did you
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That is all thanks to Behram. When we had launched Upper Crust, we
had given a lot of assignments to several photographers and they
didn't deliver and my husband hated the cribbing and complaining
that I used to do when I didn't quite like the work. He hated this
kind of attitude and told me if you are complaining, why don't you
do it yourself . I always liked photography and I always shot
pictures. I was only a little shy to do it professionally. Even
now I shoot for myself and for Upper Crust although I have got
lots of offers to shoot for somebody else. I shoot because I enjoy
it and I don't want to make money out of it by shooting for
someone else.
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specialize in any particular style of Photography? |
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As I started shooting, I became pretty
versatile. People became my forte and I received compliments from
people, quite a few of them acknowledged that their best pictures
were shot by me. Even one of Bal Thackeray's best picture has been
shot by me. Probably, one of the reasons could be that I had a
personal equation with a lot of people and I helped them shed
their inhibitions and thus got the best pictures. Shooting
pictures of people became a big strength, then I started
travelling a lot and travel pictures became part of my portfolio. |
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I also started shooting food for the magazine and I believe if you
don't know something at times, it helps. I didn't know that it is
difficult to shoot food, I just jumped into it and it grew and
grew and in the last 7 years I clicked so many pictures running
into thousands or even hundred thousand odd pictures.
The photography exhibition recently also was just by chance as
people in the office suggested me to have an exhibition of the
impressive portfolio of pictures I had taken. So my secretary
blocked dates for the exhibition at the Jehangir Art Gallery and
the next question was what should be the theme of the exhibition
and so I decided let's do people as I had taken a lot of pictures
of versatile people. So it was all kinds of people whose
photographs were on display- from Maharajahs to Princes and
Princesses and common vendors on the streets, to little children ,
to international wine guys, to film stars it was like an A to Z of
people, you name it and their pictures were there. So it was the
most logical thing to do. In all it was five years of work and to
put it together it took us almost 3 weeks and after the Mumbai
floods last July, we had the exhibition on August 8 and it was a
lot of fun and very different and at the end of it I quite enjoyed
it.
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How do you
spend your day managing the three-Afternoon, Upper Crust and
your passion for photography? |
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No two days are
alike. In fact one half of a day can be drastically different from
the other part of the day. And when you do something with passion
and zeal and you don't make it a pain you enjoy it and the day
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As you edit a
magazine of lifestyle and living, what according to you is the
idea of ideal food and ideal living.? |
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Simple. I may be
eating at times the most exotic food However, at the end of the
day I would like to eat my simple dal and rice with my home made
lime pickle which is nothing but lime and salt. Honestly,
simplicity in everything gives you the ideal flavour of life
whether you eat simply, live simply, interact simply, travel
simply No complications of any kind, that's the best way. Simple
living and high thinking, that should be the way of life. |
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With the
proliferation of electronic media, many more news channels
coming in, how do you see the future scenario of the publication
industry.
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I was asked this
question 20 years ago, 10 years ago and 5 years ago and all
along I have maintained that newspapers cannot be replaced by
any other media. First it was television which invaded our life,
then the video and now the internet, it doesn't make any
difference even today. You want to read that printed word and
newspapers will never go out of style and out of business.
Newspapers and magazines are here to stay and continue to be an
integral part of our lives. |
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As travel is
also one of your forte and you cover places in Upper Crust,
which is your preferred destination in India and abroad.? |
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I have come to an
age and time in life where I enjoy India more than I enjoy the
rest of the world. I love the hills and recently when I went to
Badrinath and Kedarnath and thoroughly enjoyed it. I love
trekking and I love the hills. I am not a sea person and I don't
like beaches as much as exploring the hills. I like the hills,
the lakes and streams and I can go anywhere in the Himalayas-
any spot in the Himalayas is my favourite spot. I like to go to
places where I don't want to see much of monuments and
structures. I like to go offbeat. It’s important especially
after working your mind out, I like to go to places where I can
just go and relax a bit, indulge in a spa activity. I like
cruises very much and that's the best form of relaxation. Places
with monuments & architecture are a big no for me. |
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| What
are your thoughts for those who want to pursue
journalism as a career and what are the attributes
one needs to have in order to be a good journalist? |
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Get ready first
of all to be paid low, work hard, whipped, and slog your butt
off. Great rewards because there is no high greater than when
you are a good journalist and when you get that recognition,
when you are a credible journalist. It's really a wonderful
feeling. I know as I've lived with one for 16 years of my life
and he was no unassuming, Behram Contractor, that today I
realize his importance much more than when I was
with him. People walk up to me, important people
from all over the world and people talk about him.
When people go away, that's when they are remembered
for a while and forgotten. |
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And that's what Behram
told me that when I am gone, never name a road after me and I
had people approach me for that and I said I don't want it. And
he is remembered even today after he has gone only because he
was a great journalist. So there are great rewards for being a
journalist and I would say go for it. I would advise people to
make a career out of that, but be prepared as it is hard work. I
will pay in the long run especially if you do not bluff around.
The attributes to be a good journalist are honesty, integrity,
hard work - a passion depending on what area of journalism you
intend getting into especially in case of hard core journalism.
Like Vir Sanghvi is a great journalist and a food writer as
well. So also was Behram, he was a great journalist and as
Busybee he was a great food writer as well. You have to be
persistent and pursue it as a long term career. You can't be a
journalist for two years and expect rewards. |
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How is the
face of journalism changing in terms of integrity and ethics? |
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It is a very
personal thing to each newspaper. It depends on the culture of
each newspaper. Like any other area, you may have the good
people and the bad people and so it happens in newspapers as
well. But by and large, there are quite a few new people who
come into this world for a quick fix and they think they'll
become journalists overnight. It doesn't work like that.
Journalism is experience. It's understanding people over the
years, who you are going to report, who are you going to talk
to, who are you going to interview, etc. It's a long term
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What are the
highs and lows in this field? |
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You are
recognized for being a good newspaper, you are recognized for
doing something good to society would count amongst the highs.
People walk up to us and tell us how some information in our
newspaper has helped them. Those are the highs. The lows are
that you compromise in your life. When you joined in you are in
your 20s and suddenly you realize that now you are in your 40s
and you wonder where your years have gone. You compromise in
your life because it is a 24 hour activity. In my case, the low
has been that we never had big bucks from the very beginning and
we've been very thrifty people, very careful with money. I would
prefer running a newspaper my way rather than splurge like some
newspapers do when they launch their publication. So I am happy
the way I am and there are no real lows as such. |
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influenced your life? |
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I can go on and
on about him. Honestly, it is the easiest and yet the most
difficult thing to talk about Behram. What can one say of a
person as great as him and yet so simple. I live on remote
control today with his principles. It's like I am stuck with
something at some point of time in my life, I think what Behram
would do in this kind of situation and I have my
answer. It's the things I learnt from him. He was my
mentor without me realizing it. I was considerably
younger than him and I never felt it. If all there
were times, I felt that he was younger than me
because he lived life to the fullest. |
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He enjoyed
working, he enjoyed being with people, he enjoyed partying, he
enjoyed drinking his whisky, he enjoyed everything what he did
and he never thought ill of anybody. Even those who might have
done him in, in a small way, he had no spite or ill feeling for
anyone. Never a bad thought for anyone and that is why he was so
unpolluted in his mind, so detoxified-he was a pure human being
and that purity, that essence, I have imbibed and I feel very
happy for it. Behram's influence has been too tremendous to talk
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personal side, what have been your interests. |
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I had as many
hobbies as many courses I have done. I might have even done a
training course in my younger days with Radio Bhuvan. After
school, I wanted to do everything that Bombay had to offer. I
did my Travel and Tourism course, I learnt COBOL. Even today I
have a good collection of stamps, calligraphic books, stamps,
keychains, pebbles and what not. I am a collector and love
collecting these “silly sweet” things. I have a
collection of little notes that I have got from my
friends since my younger days. |
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I love reading and at one time I had 22 penpals and that
plummeted as I used to spend a lot of money in mail in my
younger days and eventually I had just one out of the 22 odd
penpals who was from Germany and she eventually passed away. I
encourage people to write letters. I love farming and
cultivating and I am a farmer and it gives me great
satisfaction.
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What is your
message to your readers? |
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Please apply
yourself and listen to your inner voice and do your thing. |